World Watch OnLine: The Buckaroo Banzai Mailing List
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Contents:
Greetings
Re: World Watch OnLine 50 (the REAL one!) - 15 July 1998
Borders.com - Buckaroo Banzai
BB sightings in Star Trek
Re: Welcome to World Watch OnLine!
Buckaroo Banzai Workprint Video in the UK.

Buckaroo Banzai - what else?
Transcript (finally) (whew!)
"The Whisper"

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Greetings,

Ah...I think I may be back on schedule, at least for
a bit. But, as I've said before, we aint called
"Irregulars" for no reason. 

Received no satellite guide for August yet, so I'm
unaware if TABB is showing anytime. There are several
websites that carry listings, so hopefully if it's 
out there, you can find out before it's too late.

The BB patches were mentioned last issue as coming
from the Starland website, but no URL was given.
It's linked to from several sites, including the 
World Watch Site, and it's address is (imaginatively
enough) http://www.starland.com.

Sometimes cool BB stuff shows up on auction sites
like Ebay.com, but beware, stuff like patches, posters,
t-shirts and postcards can be bought new from sites
like Starland, usually for less, and most likely
in better shape. And I'd just bet that somewhere
on this list is someone willing and able to dupe
the workprint for little more than the cost of 
a tape and postage. Buyer beware and all that.

On with the show...
ArcLight

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Subj:	Re: World Watch OnLine 50 (the REAL one!) - 15 July 1998
Date:	98-07-14 22:11:46 EDT
From:	Rass123

hey, just out of curiosity did anyone else happen to catch a
glimpse of our beloved leader buckaroo on either TBS or TNT (I'm not sure
which) a few weeks ago?  I could have sworn I saw him fighting (of all
things) a giant rat.

**** "Of Unknown Origin" - a really fun movie, if you
want my opinion. My first exposure to Peter Weller 
(and Shannon Tweed) and one of the reasons I wanted to
see BB when I first heard about it. Had seen "...Origin"
a few times and thought PW was really cool in it. - ArcLight ****

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Subj:	 Borders.com - Buckaroo Banzai
Date:	98-07-15 00:31:44 EDT
From:	bnelso01@mail.win.org (Becky Nelson)

Don't know if this will work out any better than your attempt through
another outfit some while back (Barnes & Noble, if I recall correctly),
but it's worth trying.

Also, you might alert people to keep their eyes open for a Canadian
printing that has made it as far south as Tulsa, OK, where Agate found a
copy at a recent convention. It's the same cover, except for a small
white maple leaf with Canada printed in it, which is located near the
lower right corner. I can't say at this point if there are any
significant differences in the text, but when she gets up the nerve to
open the plastic and find out, I'll let you know.

BTW, Borders.com turned up two hits for this title, one of them
definitely out of print with an ISBN of 0671540580, and this one, with
the ISBN 0671505742 -- what that means I can't guess, unless there was
more truth to the Books In Print listings from circa 1989 than Simon &
Schuster admitted at the time.

Replay

****I think it was Amazon that I tried. - ArcLight ****

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Subj:	 BB sightings in Star Trek
Date:	98-07-15 03:27:09 EDT
From:	camelot@amigo.net (Scott Tate)

First of all, congrats on the 50th, ArcLight; you do us all proud.

As a lifelong Trekker and a longtime Buckaroo Banzai fan, I've recently
been amusing myself by identifying connections between the two. If it's
not too wordy, I thought it might be educational to share with
everyone...

COMMON ACTORS
-------------
Christopher Lloyd ("John Bigboote") played the lead heavy ("Klingon
Commander Kruge") in  Star Trek III:  The Search for Spock.  Ironically,
STIII was one of several blockbusters in the summer of '84 that drew
attention away from TABB's theatrical run.  By the way, for those of you
lucky enough to have read Rafterman's excellent BBAWCL script, I
strongly recommend reviewing Lloyd's performance here; seeing him as
Kruge helps visualize him in the role of Lo Pep.

Robert Ito ("Prof. Hikita") appeared in the 1988 TNG episode "Coming of
Age" as Tac Officer Chang, supervising admissions exams at Starfleet
Academy.

Vincent Schiavelli ("John O'Connor") appeared only a couple of episodes
later in "The Arsenal of Freedom," playing a Minosian arms dealer (or
rather, an interactive holographic recording thereof, kinda like the
record that John Parker delivered to the Institute).

THE OSCILLATION OVERTHRUSTER
----------------------------
Greg Jein, who worked with miniatures on TABB, has also done quite a
bit of modelmaking for ST.  He provided the ST production staff with a
reproduction of the overthruster to use as a prop.  If sharp-eyed
viewers keep their eyes open (and can see past the repainting and other
minor modifications), it can be spotted in the following episodes.  (Due
to time and budget constraits, shows like ST often recycle their props,
and I rather suspect there are probably other overthruster appearances I
haven't been able to verify yet.)

"11001001" (TNG, 1988)  Wesley Crusher uses it as an isolinear chip
reader.

"Pen Pals" (TNG, 1989)  Look for it in the Enterprise's geosciences lab,
where it's being used as a spectral analysis device.

"Best of Both Worlds" (TNG, 1990)  It's a Borg surgical instrument.

"A Man Alone" (DS9, 1993)  Dr. Bashir uses it as a handheld sensor.

MISC. REFERENCES
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All Starfleet vessels bear a dedication plaque, engraved with
information such as the ship's name, registry number, commission date,
etc., as well as a motto (for ex., the Enterprise's "... to boldly go
where no one has gone before.")  The motto of the U. S. S. Excelsior is
"No matter where you go, there you are."  (Dedication plaques and other
small signage are rarely shown onscreen in enough detail to be legible
to the viewing audience, and so tend to be rife with in-jokes.  Offhand,
I don't recall the Excelsior's plaque ever having been prominently
featured onscreen.  For those completists out there, the ship itself has
made notable appearances in STIII, STVI, and the 1996 Voyager episode
"Flashback.")

A handful of episodes (most notably DS9's "If Wishes Were Horses," 1993)
have made reference to the last great baseball player:  a shortstop for
the London Kings who, in 2026, finally broke Joe DiMaggio's
long-standing record for hits in consecutive games.  His name is Harmon
"Buck" Bokai, meant as a deliberate (if vague) homage to Buckaroo.

"The Pegasus" (TNG, 1994) shows a starship equipped with an experimental
technology allowing it to pass through solid matter.  I don't know for
certain that the writers had TABB in mind when they thought of this but,
given the frequency of other allusions, it seems a distinct possibility.

JUST TO BE THOROUGH...
----------------------
Now we're into the extrememely trivial...  TABB visual fx supervisor
Scott Squires, matte artist Rocco Gioffre, and set decorator Lina De
Scenna all performed similar duties on Star Trek:  The Motion Picture
(1979).  Actors Raye Birk, John Walter Davis, and Kevin Sullivan had
minor roles in both TABB and various incarnations of ST; I'll leave it
as an exercise for the reader to consult the Internet Movie Database for
exact citations.

Also, a question of semantics:  Since Back to the Future pays homage to
TABB, do BTTF references in ST count as indirect TABB references?  If
so, Voyager has done so once or twice.  In "Cathexis" (1995) Lt. Paris
mentions his childhood physician Doc Brown.  (Again, I don't know for
sure this was deliberate, but...)  In "Prototype" (1996) "flux
capacitance" is measured as a property of energy flow.

IN CONCLUSION
-------------
Keep in mind that this isn't intended as a comprehensive list, just
something I compiled off the top of my head with some minimal research
to double-check my facts.  In short, I've almost certainly missed a few.
So, Trekkers and Blue Blaze Irregulars, unite!  Keep your eyes open for
additions and corrections.  Feel free to e-mail me with revisions or,
better yet, post them here for everyone to enjoy.  (That's what the
newsletter's for, isn't it?)

**** That it is. Finding BB refs in the current Trek world
is always a rewarding experience. Tasteful bunch, those
Trekkers. - ArcLight ****

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Subj:	 Re: Welcome to World Watch OnLine!
Date:	98-07-15 13:09:34 EDT
From:	crowrob@sciences.aum.edu (Robert Crowell)

I am pleased that you would let me into this great group of BB fans.
However, I have never been very comfortable with the 8th dimension nor the
4th. Here is what the dimensions are explained to currently exist as:

8th ...
7th ...
6th ...
5th ...  are currently theoritical and due to heated discussion
4th ---> Time
3th ---> up and down directions (Z axis)
2nd ---> left and right (Y axis)
1st ---> forward and backward (X axis)

Now, Einstein described a hypothetical creature that only existed in the
1st dimension (FlatLander theory).  And he built a model of the universe
with around 90 degree turns of the x axis to give (Y), and 90 degrees from
Y give the (Z) axis.  However, he tacked time on to the end of the list.


I think that if a creature that lives in only one dimension

    ?
<---A--------------------------------------B--->
    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | 

and wants to travel from point (A) to point (B), then he will cover a
specific distance within a certain time frame {just like if humans were
driving on a straight road}.  This makes the flatlander existing in the
1st dimension, skipps the 2nd and 3rd, and places him in existance in
the 4th dimension. 

So, We finally get the idea that for any form of travel to be possible,
time will be one of the most basic dimensions.

Therefore, I refute the order in which Einstein has placed the dimensions.
The appropriate order should be:

8th ...
7th ...
6th ... all of these are 90 degrees rotated from the previous dimension
5th ...
4th ... ????
3rd ... Z axis
2nd ... y Axis
1st ... X Axis
0th ... Time

Time is the basis for all of the other dimensions.  That is why it is so
hard to travel in time... it holds our universe together, and is so
complex that for us (3rd dimension dwellers);  it would probably
rip us to shreds if we tried to travel in time.


The 8th dimension, on the other hand, is not impossible to travel in. Just
like BB!

/--0--\  crowrob

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Subj:	Buckaroo Banzai Workprint Video in the UK.
Date:	98-07-17 18:57:10 EDT
From:	ATALPUR

Hi people. I am new to this list and just wanted to know if anyone knows
where to get the Buckaroo Banzai Workprint Video in the UK. If anyone wants a
copy of the film from my PAL videotape, I would be more than happy to help
out. You can contact me at ATALPUR@aol.com And does anyone know when the
rights for BB will clear, so we can finally get a Special Edition Video or
Laserdisc? Many thanks for your time. LONG LIVE THE GREATEST FILM EVER! 

Yours sincerely,
Alex Talpur.

E-Mail- ATALPUR@aol.com

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Subj:	 
Date:	98-07-20 07:25:06 EDT
From:	jeffh@njgs.dep.state.nj.us (Jeffrey L. Hoffman)

Hello,

I would like to join the UnOfficial Buckaroo Banzai Mailing List. My email
is jeffh@njgs.dep.state.nj.us.

My wife and I have been Buckaroo Banzai fans since we first saw the movie
in the late 1980s. We didn't see it on a movie screen, unfortunately, but
rented it several times until we decided it was better to buy a copy.

I have one music question. My favorite song is the one in the bar just
before 'Since I Don't Have You.' This is the big band sort of song where
Buckaroo is playing a horn. I've checked the BB links looking for
information on this song but can't find anything.  Do you know anything?

By the way I live in Princeton Junction New Jersey, about 1/2 mile from
Grovers Mills. Grovers Mills is actually a little cross roads with about 6
houses. Whenever I see Buckaroo Banzai and The Hong Kong Cavaliers drive
past a long line of warehouses that is supposed to represent Grovers Mills
I have to chuckle. I guess there must be some sort of invisibility screen
working here and it works very well!

Thanks for your assistance.

Jeff
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Jeffrey L. Hoffman, New Jersey Geological Survey
PO Box 427  Trenton, NJ  08625   
voice (609) 984-6587  fax (609) 633-1004
jeffh@njgs.dep.state.nj.us  
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/njgs/
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

**** Hmmm....hopefully by now you've found the music page
on the World Watch site, with info graciously provided
by our own relayer who also has it on BBS#23.
Now, if anyone knows where to get a version arranged similarly
to the way BBnHKC did it, that's what I'd like. - ArcLight ****

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Subj:	Buckaroo Banzai - what else?
Date:	98-07-28 00:28:33 EDT
From:	Ardnas0106

Hello, I just heard about this mailing list, and I'm glad to see
there are people keeping the torch burning for this film! I took my then 12
yr old son to see it when it first came out (his idea) and have been a fan
ever since!
I'm writing because a friend/customer suggested that people on this list
might be interested in two things I have to sell; one is the "work-print" BB
video, the other is the BB cd soundtrack. I found both at a comic con this
summer and bought every copy the guy had! The videos aren't as good quality
as the rental version, but I have two friends with just as expensive copies
that look much worse. The cd is not the gold one I've owned since last year;
it is silver, has a different cover, slightly different tracks, and sounds
like a better quality recording. It says "1994 Yoyodyne productions" on the
back (!). I have been selling copies of both on Ebay and only have a couple
left now. I am also interested in knowing more about the origin of the cds,
which came first, the gold or the silver, where they came from, how many
exist (the guy I just bought the silver ones from claims only about a hundred
were made - can anybody help verify or debunk that claim?) So on the one
hand, if anybody wants to buy either the tape or the cd, by all means let me
know, and on the other hand, if anybody knows anything I don't about the CD
itself, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write, I'm dying to know more about it!
Keep the home fires burning-
Sandy

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Subj:	 Transcript (finally) (whew!)
Date:	98-08-01 20:29:45 EDT
From:	jetlightfoot@juno.com (Becky M Nelson)

This is to inform all and sundry that the most extensive version of the
TABB transcript I know of is finally available on the web, after numerous
unplanned delays. Even now, it's not in it's absolutely polished final
state, but it is a significantly larger, more detailed animal which runs
almost 180K in it's html form.

If you'd like to see it, stop by the Strike Team Renegade website at: 

http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/gernsback/207/index.html

-- or surf in from any of our other pages you may have bookmarked.  It's
linked to all the main sections, and to the best of my knowledge, all
those links work now (rather than sidetracking you to a "sorry"
announcement).

Anyone wishing permission to archive this version of the transcript
should e-mail requests to: Renegade_Six@fcmail.com -- you'll get the
direct URL from there, if you don't surf it out on your own beforehand.

And thanks to anyone who has already visited our website. Come again
soon.

Replay
BBI #6188
Strike Team Renegade Communications Chief and webmistress

**** This is an amazing effort, and the site is shaping
up to be one of the premiere house of BB info on the
web. Everyone should go there right after finsishing
this. - ArcLight ****

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"Buckaroo Banzai" and related characters and concepts are copyright   Generale Bank,
Nederland (or at least, that's what we think ...).  The story, on the other hand, is copyright
1997-98 and possibly into the next millennium by me, that is BBI Red Di ("Chicago
Red's second cousin") (reddi@sirius.com), and cannot be re-distributed or archived
anywhere without askin' me nice first (except, of course, in World Watch One archives,
which doesn't have to ask).  This story may contain language and action which some may
find PG-13; I'll try to keep it at that level.  Not being entirely familiar with the complete
BB Institute background, Red Di welcomes any helpful comments about what happened
when and where.  

This story is set after the return of Peggy/Peggy as documented in Ernest Cline's
screenplay for "Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League", in which Penny is
revealed to be Peggy (sorry, hope that didn't spoil it for everyone).

(Copies of earlier chapters may possibly be found in the Archives, definitely by writing
RedDi@sirius.com)


	Chicago Red was dressed in black baggy shorts and a red tank top when she
hobbled into the kitchen with her temporary cane, feet bare.  She found Pecos and Reno
sipping at some mare's milk.  "So what in blazes time is it anyway?" she demanded
brusquely.
	"Nine o'clock," replied Pecos, glancing at her feet.  "Did you come all the way
over from the clinic just to ask that?"
	"A.M. or P.M.?" she asked, a little less abruptly.
	"P.M.," grinned Reno.  "Dark sky usually signifies night."
	"Sorry, I'm a little disoriented," Chicago Red sighed.  "I'm actually an escapee of
the clinic.  I don't like it over there, it smells like a . . . clinic.  Anyway, I'm back in my
room over here."
	"Did you tell Buckaroo you're here?" Pecos asked.
	"Yeah, I saw him on the way over.  He said to get filled in on the meeting at the
Bunkhouse.  I'm kind of hungry, though."  She glanced at the mare's milk.  "Okay. just
don't even tell me what you're drinking.  Tell me there's something edible in that fridge."
	"We keep a pretty strict diet here," Reno told her.  "Want some mare's milk?  It's
actually quite good once you get used to it."
	Chicago Red made a face.  "You folks would last two seconds in Chicago. 
Sheesh.  How about bread?  Can I make some toast at least?"
	Pecos laughed.  "Peggy said you would be like this, so she went out today to get
you some food."
	Chicago Red grinned then.  "That woman is a saint.  Saint Peggy, patron saint of
hot dog lovers everywhere."
	Reno added, "She knew you were coming and sent some food up to the
Bunkhouse for you with New Jersey.  I think she even left some clothes in your room."
	"Cool.  Walking around in my PJs is a little disarming," she replied, heading for
the stairs to the Bunkhouse.  She found New Jersey and a plate full of hot dogs, chips,
potato salad and a Ho-Ho waiting for her.  "Praise Allah!  My rescuer and some real
food!"
	"You know, this stuff'll kill you," New Jersey told her, making a few last
notations about the meeting.
	"So will liquor and smoking, but that doesn't stop me.  I heard that living is really
bad for you, by the way."  She dug into the hot dog, popping open a can of soda.  "I
understand I have you to thank yet again.  And Rawhide and Buckaroo, of course.  And
everybody."
	"Consider me thanked."
	Between chews, she added, "Between last night's scrape and today, I have to say
you guys must be questioning my skills."
	New Jersey raised his eyebrows.  "You seemed to hold your own pretty well."
	"Thank you kindly."  She took another swig of soda.  "What'd I miss?  Aside from
getting conked out and all, I mean."
	"Buckaroo and Rawhide questioned the men, who are from the Chicago Crime
League, as you probably guessed."
	"Well, duh."  Chicago Red rolled her eyes.  "I know one of the ones who grabbed
me.  He's one of Shorty's boys.  Willy Barker."
	"You know him?"  New Jersey stared at her in amazement.
	"I was too weak to say anything before I passed out.  Yeah, he lived in one of the
buildings in my proj. . . near where I live.  Place called Cabrini Greens, although there's
nothing really hilly or green about it.  He was a real no-goodnick, as my mom would've
said."  Chicago Red munched on some chips.  "He's tried to get tough with me before. 
No doubt he's up to no good with the Crime League."
	New Jersey nodded.  "Well, while you were sleeping, we managed to convince
them that they'd be safer talking to us than out on the open road on the way to prison. 
The Whisper's just waiting for them to show their faces out there."
	She nodded.  "Wow, I guess Willy got some smarts after all.  So what's the story? 
Any new developments?"  New Jersey filled her in on Chang's renewed efforts to
research the coordinates and the plans for the following Saturday.  She seemed especially
thrilled about her role.  
	New Jersey asked, "So, do you think you can get your band to go along with it?"
	"They'd love it.  As long as they get paid for the gig, they're happy.  And what's
another bass player with red hair?  They're not likely to recognize me.  They'll have their
minds on other things."  She shook her head.  "So Shorty Burke has a thing for Raven? 
She will not be pleased about that, I can tell you."
	"Just remember, we'll be there to back you up," New Jersey reminded her.
	"My hero," she joked, fluttering her eyelashes prettily.  "Just get me in there a few
days early to set up the wiring."  She giggled.  "Leave me in a room filled with wires and
I'm in heaven.  So I monitor the sound from the stage, and send signals to you?  Won't
you be listening?"
	"Yes, but I won't be able to see anything.  You need to give us the go sign. 
Perfect Tommy and the Ice Queen will be your closest contacts."  Buckaroo had just
filled him in an hour earlier, having spoken to both Perfect Tommy and the Ice Queen,
who was due to arrive in another day.  "You'll see the layout when we get you the
blueprints tomorrow."
	"Good," she nodded.  "I'll need a few days in the lab to get my stuff together.  Can
you loan me some interns?"
	"Talk to Perfect Tommy."  New Jersey knew Perfect Tommy was in the den down
the hall, and called out, "Hey, Tommy!"
	"Yeah?"  Came the return shout from the den.
	New Jersey shook his head.  "Do you mind actually coming down here so we
don't have to yell?"
	Perfect Tommy sauntered in the room a few moments later, surprised to see
Chicago Red, and smiled.  "Hey there, hot stuff!  Glad to see you're up and about.  What's
that you're consuming?"
	"Real food," was her reply.  "And incidentally, I may be willing to give up
cigarettes to join Team Banzai, but you'll have to pry the hoagie from my cold dead hand
before I give it up for mare's milk."
	Perfect Tommy made a face.  "There's a visual I didn't need.  What's up?"
	"Chicago Red needs some interns to work in electronics with her tomorrow and
the next day.  I figured you'd know who to get," New Jersey told him.
	"Sure, I'll send a few around to the lab tomorrow.  Chang's gonna stick around for
the weekend's festivities, by the way.  He's already asleep, though, I think," Perfect
Tommy said.  He turned back to Chicago Red.  "Oh, and your boss called today."
	"The Ice Queen?"  She swallowed her food and a concerned look crossed her
face, only to be replaced by relief.  "Oh, yeah.  Sobriquet's moving in to assist this
weekend, right?"
	"Yeah, and they want to take you with them on a short run to Kowloon Bay. 
After Queenie goes out with me on Sunday, of course."
	Chicago Red laughed.  "Yeah, right."
	"Seriously.  I finally talked her into it.  She acted like it was going to be a
meeting, but I know what she really means," Perfect Tommy said.
	Chicago Red nodded.  "Well, I'll give her a call.  I'd be up for a short run.  But
only after Sunday.  Even I need a day of rest now and then."
	Perfect Tommy nodded.  "I hear that.  All this saving the world stuff can really cut
into a guy's social calendar."  He headed for the hallway.  "See ya.  And lock your damn
window this time.  We don't need any more kidnapping attempts tonight."  With that, he
was gone.
	New Jersey snuck some of Chicago Red's chips off her plate.  "You had us
worried for a while there.  Especially Peggy.  She talked you up quite a bit while you
were out."
	Chicago Red looked away then, pretending to adjust the bandage on her leg.  "Oh
yeah?  What did she say?"
	"Well, she told me about your sister and Chicago and that if I really want to bug
you, I should call you Shy.  Like Chi-town, Chicago."  He wisely left out his knowledge
of her real name. 
	Chicago Red grinned slyly and said, "Is that all, Sidney?"
	"Point taken and heeded, Chicago Red.  Well, she may have mentioned a few
other things, mostly about her great admiration for you and that you might join Team
Banzai next year.  Any truth to that?"
	She shrugged.  "Maybe.  Why do you want to know?"
	"No real reason.  Just curious."
	The sly look returned, which others would soon recognize as the pre-teasing look. 
"Or could it be that I'm just so fabulously talented and wonderful with my limp and my
cane and scar tissue that you've fallen madly in love with me?"
	"Red--"
	"Oh, you are so in love with me!"  She laughed now, stealing back one of her
chips.  
	For once he didn't back down from being kidded.  "Well, what's not to love, with
those boxers and that cane . . . "
	She laughed harder then.  "Ohhh, stop.  My stitches are itching.  I know, I'm just a
heartbreaker.  And you, New Jersey, are all right. In case anyone asks.  Promise me
something."  She pointed at him across the conference room table.
	"Shoot, metaphorically speaking."
	"After this is all over and we've saved the world, yadda yadda, you take me for a
real date.  Sunday."
	"What, you're not counting last night?"  He threw up his hands in mock
frustration.  "Good God, woman, three men dead and you're still not satisfied."
	Chicago Red laughed again.  "Maybe I shouldn't be asking.  Who knows what the
encore might hold."
	"Well, it's a deal anyway," New Jersey nodded, still grinning as he realized he
never would have gotten through this conversation if Peggy hadn't told him what she had
and lifted some of the mystery that had previously kept him at arm's length from Chicago
Red.  She seemed much more human here now, munching on junk food and talking, most
likely, like her kid sister.  "When this is over, you got it."
	"If we live that long," she amended.

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